
The Death and Resurrection Of Our World
Hosted by Daniel Murphy, author of The Death and Resurrection of Our World, Utopia explores the profound and timeless visions of a renewed world as described in the Bible. Each episode dives deep into scripture, offering reflections and insights on themes of peace, restoration, and divine promise.
The Death and Resurrection Of Our World
Episode 18: The End is Here, The End is Now — The Death and Resurrection of Our World
What if the end isn’t something to fear… but something to long for?
In Episode 18, The End is Here, The End is Now: The Death and Resurrection of Our World, we continue our deep dive into the person of Jesus Christ. This time, we shift our focus from who He is—His power, purity, and purpose—to what He will do. From the dismantling of a broken world to the unveiling of a new creation, this conversation is filled with Scripture, hope, and awe.
We explore:
- The new heaven and new earth Jesus will speak into being
- The role of the saints as witnesses to His glory
- Why evil exists and how God’s justice and love coexist
- The heartbreaking reason why Jesus wept
- What it means to finally live in a world free from sin, sorrow, and death
This isn’t just theology—it’s your future.
As Revelation 21:4 reminds us:
“He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
✨ Come be reminded of your eternal hope and your place in God’s redemptive plan. The end isn’t the finale—it’s the resurrection of all things.
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Hello again. Hey, hey, welcome back. Thanks for joining us. We're going to follow on
from the previous podcast looking at the character of Jesus and focus more now that
we've covered off on who he is, his power,
his characteristics. We're gonna talk about now what then he will do because of
those characteristics and his being and his power. I think we'll just get straight
into it and hand over to you, Dan, and you can sort of fill us in on where your
head's at in that regard.
We've looked at, through the previous podcast, we've looked at this inevitable utopia
that's coming upon the earth, that Jesus is going to bring in, He's going to make
happen, He's going to create it. His voice, His words, the Father, the Son and the
Holy Spirit in unison, in perfect harmony that we looked at before, will bring about
a whole new creation that what we see in this universe, because man has corrupted
it, this universe will pale in significance to the new universe that Jesus Christ is
going to make.
We've spoken about trying to imagine a world that is not anything like we have now
in our world. If you had a world that had no war, imagine if there was,
we had this world that we're living on this planet now, and you say you couldn't
have conflict, you couldn't have warfare, it just is unattainable,
it can't be there. What would our world look like? If you remove that,
if you are removed hate from our world, what would our world look like? If you
removed greed, pride, envy, what would the world look like?
If you removed all of the disease, corruption, pollution, what would our world look
like? Well that's the world that's coming and Jesus Christ is going to create that.
Then what He will do when we, His saints, His bride, He will take us through
stages of metamorphosis that will be like him. He tells us that clearly in
scripture, he tells us we will have a body just like his body. And I've explained
that in my book, Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship.
So we are then gonna get front row seats
at watching Jesus Christ just speak. It says in the beginning in Genesis 1,
"God spoke. Who did he speak? The Word of God, Jesus Christ. The Father will speak.
Jesus will enact. The Holy Spirit will brood over. Go with this whole new creation
and we'll watch that." As I say, right there with him and he'll go,
and we'll just, we'll be in or even though we've gone into that state of being,
we'll be in absolute awe at what He will create and make and we'll get to share
that with Him. So what I was saying before, we've got to close this world off in
our minds. Put away, there's no death, there's no babies crying,
there's no pain, There's no backbiting, there's no gossip,
there's just this place of serenity and peace in utopia with this amazing,
incredible, wonderful being that will be just like him. We've spoke about it before,
it's the foolishness right at the beginning when Eve took of the fruit.
When Satan said will you be like God God always wanted us to be like him. We were
made in his image. That's what we that was our destiny That's what we're supposed
to do That's what he wants for us and then housed in these new bodies that cannot
sin Can't you wait for that?
There will be no temptation nothing to draw your way and nothing to entice you and
you and then you you don't have to be part of look our world's wonderful but gee
we've wrecked it and then we're part of when we know it we go to the Philippines
and you go to India and you go to the garbage dumps and you go to say the rivers
and the systems and it's just extraordinary you can't unless you actually see it and
I've seen rivers so clogged with garbage, you can walk across them. This is the
rivers going through major cities in India. I've driven along kilometres and
kilometres and kilometres of road and just the whole side of the road is just piled
with rubbish. I've got photos in my iPad and you go, people live in this and exist
in this. One day all of that will be gone. Jesus is coming back to clean all that
up. So I just I'm sorry. Just hold that thought.
Don't forget where you get where you are there. I just wanted to I did See a
comment and this this this is brought up all the time and I saw a comment on one
of our previous episodes It was just just all it said was how would God let that
happen? I Can't remember what it was in reference to but The context was essentially
suffering and when you're talking there about greed and pride and hate,
envy and everyone talks about if God was a God of love,
why is there war, why is there murder, why is there corruption and all these things
and in the previous episode we've spoken about the purity of Christ and his
personality and his person and his characteristics. And so if that isn't in his
being, who is then responsible for the hate and the crime and the war?
own sinful nature and the this conflict in people's minds of a God of love and a
world full of disease and pain don't correlate you can't put them two together but
it's not God's fault that we sin
He gave us free will so that we can choose to love and obey or we can choose to
disobey and sin. It's very simple. It is our own actions. It is our own fault.
And it's horrendous to consider the innocent life that gets caught up in that.
But at the end of the day, God's never dropped an atomic bomb. God's never killed
in hate or anger.
Sorry, just realized he hates sin and will wipe it out in order to preserve
innocence and life, but he doesn't out of a selfish motivation kill.
It is out of the preservation of life and innocence and his creation that he does
clean, like you say, He will clean in order to continue and preserve. But the whole
premise of God is love. And we're going to talk about this later. I know we're
going to touch on this more, but I just wanted to, when you're talking about
disease and war and all that sort of stuff. And then people go, yeah, but God is
lost. So how does that even exist? And it's our own free will and it's our own
choice. And it's actually a really great lyric from a Christian hip hop artist,
Lecrae. The the premise of the statement is why doesn't God just stop it and
He says well, where does God stop it? Does he stop it at the murder level at the
lying level or at the thinking level? Because how does murder transpire?
It starts with a thought So at what point does God stop it? Because if you want
him to wipe it all out, he's got to take it back to its root source. And none of
us are without sin. So therefore he's got to cleanse the whole earth. So before you
jump to that conclusion of God's just got to fix all these other people. Hang on a
sec, just take a look in the mirror. Because all have sinned and fallen short of
the glory of God. So I just wanted to cover off on that so That because it's
going to be it's going to be a question that will keep coming up so we can refer
back to this anyone who ever asks that And I think I mean I think you I don't
want to stray from our topic, but I think you hit something important You said it's
they You know we see the injustice of others we see the sinfulness of others We
see the corruptness of others and we won't got to deal with it as long as he
leaves me alone in my own concept, well, I'm a good person. - Yes.
- You know, one of the words I love describing God is he's described himself, I
mean, it's many examples, but one found in Joel, chapter two, I believe it's verse
16, where God is described as the one who vindicates. And,
you know, we see that in a legal sense, you know, in a courtroom, but,
you but just the purity of the word is God makes everything good. And that's what
we're talking about. What God made good to start with. The beauty of the garden. I
mean, he looked at it, said, "It's good." And we created man and woman, he said,
"It's very good." Because they were at that point bearing perfectly the image of
God. Of course, sin tarnished and broke all that. but there is coming the day of
vindication when God is going to make it all right again.
And as Dan's already said, I can't imagine what it would be like to wake up
without a single ache, a single pain. You know, one fellow said,
you know, he woke up and first, you know, was praying, said, "Lord, thank you.
What a wonderful day. I'm feeling good. I haven't had any wicked thoughts.
I haven't done anything wrong, but in just a minute the alarm's going to ring, and
then I'm really going to need your help." That's kind of where we're at, but that
day when we're not going to need that help, and we always are going to need His
help. helping him, we live, move, and have our being, but just that day, when even
what's broken in us is fully restored, I can't comprehend it, but I sure look
forward to it.
- I think one of the things us Christians wish we could pass on to someone else is
if you understood the relationship you have with has crossed, if you could just,
how can you bottle this? How can you transfer to someone else what God has given
you? Just because He's relates to you, just because you're in this knowing Him,
better than you know your wife, more than you know your wife, more intimately than
you know your wife, and you just wish you could somehow get an injection or or a
tube or something, pull some of this out if you could just then inject people with
this understanding of relationship. So I love where you look in the scriptures and
you look at what made Jesus weep.
You know, he wept twice in the Bible at Lazarus's tomb and he wept over Jerusalem.
The name Lazarus is only twice in the Bible and once when Jesus gave in Luke 16
he gave the account of the rich man and Lazarus at the,
when Lazarus died and the rich man died then there's Lazarus in the tomb that Jesus
raised from the dead.
Jesus then goes on and it's really a great teaching to look into. Why only weeping
twice? Why only Lazarus twice? Jesus is making this incredible statement.
What breaks God's heart? What does it take to make God cry? The hardness of man's
hearts. Jesus said, even if they see someone come back from the dead,
they still don't believe. So when he arrived at Jerusalem. And that's why he wept
at the tomb of Lazarus. People say that he wept because he loved Lazarus. He knew
he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead. He wept because he felt for the
sisters and felt for this. No, that was all in hand. This Jesus stayed waited two
more days to ensure that Lazarus would be dead. And as Jay spoke about before,
so that there could be no refuting what had happened. But some people saw Lazarus
raised from the dead and went straight out and betrayed him. Some people went to
and turned straight to Christ. Some people went out and just betrayed him. Then he's
coming to Jerusalem, rides into Jerusalem. He weeps over Jerusalem and he says,
"Look, you don't discern the time and the seasons. Even when I come back from the
dead, you still won't believe. It's the hardness of man's heart. God is pure.
God is holy. God is righteous. And He wants us to be that way. And when we
embrace Christ in relationship and He takes us there in this deep intimacy with Him,
it's just you're in heaven, seriously. And we're getting this foretaste of everything
we're looking out here at what it's going to be like and then we're going to see
this one that we love so much doing this stuff will be bursting.
This is my God, my husband, my eternal lover of my soul that I'm getting to watch
do these incredible things and be a part of. I mean I wish as I said before,
if you could take something out of your being and give it to people,
they would just, they would change. But it's the heart of man.
It's just so difficult to deal with. But it was God's plan. He gave us free will.
He knew what we would do. But He knew the end result. He'll get His family.
we will choose Him above everything else. And it was that simple, you know?
So when people say, "Why does God allow this? Why does God allow that?" They need
to first look at themself. What's He allowing you to do? And not wiping you out in
a split second.
So... - Taste and see that the Lord is good. - Amen. - And I got one of my one of
my grandkids is a pickiest eater and
Convincing her to taste something is Like pulling teeth as we would say but once
she gets a taste of it most of the time She's she's ready for more of it.
And you know, so how do you get people? Yeah, again,
I know we're a strange little bit, but just to see the beauty and the goodness and
the richness of Christ.
I can't speak enough about it, but going back to the subject,
so what we're going to see happen, those that have chosen Christ above all,
we're going to see not only him create the new universe. We're going to watch him
wind this one up. And the scripture tells us here in Isaiah 34 /4.
Do you want to just read that out Isaac? Yeah, Isaiah 34 /4. "All the host of
heaven shall be dissolved, and the heaven shall be rolled up like a scroll. All
that host shall fall down as the leaf falls from the vine, and as the fruit
falling from a fig tree.
So I think everyone here has unrolled a rolled up map or piece of paper or
anything like that. You roll it out and you try and hold it down, don't you? As
soon as you let it go, what does it do? It goes, whee! Well one day, that's what
Jesus is going to do. The Scriptures tell us in Hebrews, in the Psalms,
And in 1 John and 1 Colossians that everything was made through,
by and for Jesus Christ. So He is the instigator of everything.
It was all made for Him, through Him and by Him. So one day He will wrap it all
up just like we read here. He will let go of the universe and it will just go
whoosh. He will take it away, the Scripture describes it like taking off a garment.
He will take it off like a garment, like a shirt or a coat, fold it up, put it
away, take out this new one which we'll watch, and he will clothe himself with
that. It's his creation. And as we talked about before, we'll witness this.
And yeah, I mean, do you guys have thoughts on what you think that'll be like
or... cool.
I always come back to Revelation 21 and just that idea that there'll be no more
sorrow, there'll be no more pain, there'll be no more death. All those sayings will
be passed away. Again, that's kind of so big conceptually,
it's hard to really get hold of. But then when it says that God himself will wipe
the tears from our eyes.
And everything we talked about, the previous podcast, the greatness of Christ,
the power of Christ, God incarnate, God in flesh, the dynamism of the scientific
facts you brought in but then it comes down we will stand in the presence of God
who himself with his hand is gonna wipe the tears from our eyes that that kind of
love manifests so personally and so really again that's almost as hard to understand
as the big picture of everything being rolled up and unrolled again completely made
new as God intended it from the beginning but it always comes down in personally
because of the love that he has for us again as you've said and as I think we
all agree if we could just somehow get people to just Just taste that and see how
good he is because all the things that he does now in our lives we talked about,
healing and his comfort and his care, those are just little foretastes of the
fullness of what it's gonna be like.
- It's a beautiful illustration of the father's heart.
And so for those who don't know scripture or understand scripture,
God is referred to as father. And as a father myself,
and we're all dads here, and for any parent watching and listening, they'll
understand when your child is really in pain or upset,
genuinely upset, and you get down on their level and you wipe the tear. That's a
very intimate personal interaction.
It takes a lowering of the parent, a lowering of the adult to get on the level
with the child and then a physical contact, often either preceded or followed by
embrace.
And it just shows the personal connection that God desires that he will physically
touch and wipe away the tear to take away the pain and I know that I'm just
thinking about the most recent example of that with my oldest it was at the end
that signified the end of the
Okay, I'm here, I've got you, it's done. Yeah, it's a beautiful illustration.
- Amen.
- I sort of think of it a child again and you think of yourself and when Jesus is
making this new heaven and new earth and all that and you know what little kids
are like? Me do it, me do it. Can I ever go, can I ever go? And yeah, sort of
like, I don't know that he's ever gonna let us touch anything but He sort of
thinks, "Oh, man, when you're loose -loved, but he might, you know, I mean, it's
that. He's so amazing, a God being all in all what is." Again, why not? Like, our
girls love cooking, and my wife's a great cook and a baker, and I'm often in the
kitchen working with her every time. It's like, "Can I crack the egg, or can I
ensure you're going to get some egg shell in there?" But you let them have a go.
Because it's part of their learning, and That's yeah, it's a beautiful again a
beautiful connection a time of connection and learning and teaching but even in
Isaiah I mean had that picture of
You know the lion eating straw the lamb lying down with the lion the Adder or the
cobra some translation call it coming out of his nest and the little children around
and Then the little children will lead them. So even in that picture of God's
vindication and the restoration of creation and the animals and what it was meant to
be, the picture, our picture is the little child in the midst of that.
What a wonderful father we have. I was blessed with a wonderful father.
So I'm very fortunate to have an idea of what good fatherhood was like.
But even as good as my dad was, how much better will it be for God himself to
involve us? I don't know what it means that that little child's gonna lead them,
but it shows our participation in what God is gonna do in setting everything good
again.
And God being a creator and we made an image and you've only got to look around,
you know, what is man capable of creating? So if we're like that, I mean,
what is going to be in store for us? We just don't have a clue, I mean, we can
try and imagine it and picture it and meditate on it, but it makes this life very,
very small. To its real proper dimension in your life is this life is compared to
eternity. This life is really so small, insignificant. It's transient.
So I'm incredibly excited about what he's going to get us to do and what we'll be
involved in. And you think and then you try and get your head around eternity and
all that sort of thing, but it's just never -ending state of incredible oneness with
God and being. I mean, that's something to really look forward to,
you know. I think that's even the title of creator,
creator of the universe. And again, a testament to us being made in his image,
if you consider essentially the evolution of humankind and our society,
we have come from dark ages, middle ages, renaissance and industrial revolution and
now we're looking at the AI revolution essentially. We have not at any point just
been content to just whatever's in front of us, So well, that is the way it is.
No, we're wanting to create all the time and invent and develop and bring new and
improve and all that. And I think personally, that's a testament to us being made
in God's image because he created and he continued until it was done.
And because of our sin, he's gone, "Well, looks like I've got to create again "and
I'll do away with that and I will make it perfect and I will make it new and it
will be done. And I was just thinking before when Jay was saying about it, it's
really hard to comprehend. I found it actually really helpful to consider and there's
a reason why there's so many videos on the internet and why they're so widely
watched of people just the most seemingly menial videos of like a really good tender
making a drink or an artisan building a chair people will sit and watch that stuff
for hours you can waste so much time watching that stuff on the internet but it's
in it is again it's in our character to appreciate creation and to watch an artisan
at work and when you're talking about the fact that we will be spectators of the
renewal and the recreation of the universe I believe it's innate in us as again
that it's part of our creation as part of the way we've been designed to desire
that and to to to to find it fascinating and appealing because it's the way God is
yeah we might leave it there yeah and thank you very much for joining us and I
appreciate you